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October 13, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Dragon Horse
Updated post today, added faces for Peru and Argentina.
October 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Dragon Horse
Updated, Argentine Female
October 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Dragon Horse
Updated African American Male Picture
February 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Leandro
Wow, What a outstanding job you are doing here man. You can even use that to track genetics such as doing crosses like Italian vs spanish and discovering how much percent of each the argentinian has for example. Is also veru curious how the average of so many faces result in excelent face simetry. Pratically all faces from all ethnices are beaultiful.
PS:Would you mind me to ask how many pictures do you use per average?
November 26, 2009 at 7:20 PM
andrea
Can you do crosses… I am particularly interested in the Chinese X Italian cross….
December 2, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Hossein
Hi, thanks for the images.
1. would you tell me how many faces have you used for each picture and how many points on face have you used.
2. Can I have the average points for each ethnicity?
Regards,
Hossein
December 2, 2009 at 7:25 AM
Dragon Horse
Hossein:
I used 25 points per face.
I don’t know the average point for each ethnicity, the software does not give me the information.
March 14, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Stephanie
Hi. I recently found this site and am interested in using the African and North American average images in my thesis. I am a psychology undergrad at the University of the West Indies, Cave Hill Campus and presently doing my thesis on intra-racial attraction amongst Afro-Caribbean people. I have other images that I have averaged myself but I would love to use those that you have provided. Note that images will not be published and only used in the questionnaire. Please let me know if I have your permission as soon as possible.
March 16, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Dragon Horse
Stephanie:
Yes you can use the images. NP.
March 17, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Stephanie
Thanks so much. If you like I can let you the results of my survey when I’m done.
March 17, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Dragon Horse
Please do, I am curious.
March 17, 2010 at 1:26 PM
Stephanie
Ok, I will.
February 6, 2011 at 5:04 AM
Joe
So…black Americans…but no whites?
February 6, 2011 at 5:28 AM
Rasfarengi
What Americans I had been planning to do actually…but have not got around to it. I think in a way it is hard, black Americans are more homogeneous than white Americans in reality. The ancestors of most black Americans were in America before 1820, and so although they came from all over West Africa (from Senegal to Angola) and a tab bit from Mozambique…the African component is pretty well mixed, and the only real variation is in European (mostly Northwest Euro ancestry)…which averages between 15-20% (more mixed in North than South).
White Americans are composed primarily of Brits (especially English and Scot), Irish, and Germans (especially middle and southern Germans). However, in some areas you have a lot of Eastern Europeans, Jewish, Italian, etc immigration. What a stereotypical white American looks like in California is quite different from New York City or Georgia. It is not impossible to do, not at all, but it is a lot of work…
however if you feel pressed to do a white American, be my guest.
In the end I think it will look like a English/Scot/Irish/German composite, more English and German, less Irish and Scot…if I did 20 pictures.
I would make the English ancestry about 7 pictures. I would make German 7 pictures (yes I know more people claim German than English ancestry but I don’t believe it, I think “English” is just boring so if someone is half English/German, they say they are ‘German”, a showing of last names, shows that English surnames are quite dominant over German ones, I think people go toward what is more exotic), 5 Irish, and 1 Italian.
Something like that, but I need to review demographic stats again…
November 22, 2012 at 8:06 PM
Joni
Well,surname isn’t a valid measurement. Most Germans in the US changed their surnames and anglified it, especially in World War 1.
February 6, 2011 at 5:35 AM
Rasfarengi
Joe:
One more thing…since white Americans are overwealmingly Northwest Euro in ancestry, initially I felt it not worth the effort to do, besides the Indian Princess in the woodpile, the exotic Euro…none of which would show up statistically in 20 pictures, I think I have an idea of what it will look like…a Germano-Celt., basically if you mixed a German and Irish composite and tilted it more toward Germanic, maybe more exact would be a Dutch and Irish composite, since the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes were from the North Sea and Baltic coasts (continental inland Germans look a bit different on average, I know because I’m currently living in Switzerland and see Germans all the time (many live here, most from Southern Germany).
Since the Germanic invasions into the UK did not kill off all the Celts, they basically mixed, with the Germanics rulings over everyone else…I believe I saw a study that showed the Germanic component Scotland, Ireland, and England…Ireland had the least (like less than 15%), England (don’t quote me) was about 30% or something maybe more, Scotland in-between (thanks to mixing in the low lands).
So Britian is an intermediate population between Dutch/Danish and Celts, but slightly more Celt then they let on…then add the U.S. Irish immigration into that, and Central and Southern German…that’s pretty much an average white american…Celto-Northwestern Germanic…
February 7, 2011 at 9:07 AM
Dragon Horse
Updated with average white American…used twenty pictures each composite, tried to do it based on demographics by ethnicity of last name and what I know of my own nation…so it is mostly a Celto-Germanic. Mostly English/German with some Scot and Irish…and I think one Italian American each, that is pretty much what white Americans are on average…there is some Native American admixture and even Africa, but that is only average around 3% in the total population based on the genetic studies I’ve seen, so really irrelevant. Unlike “whites” in Latin America, white Americans are almost overwealmingly European, not just European, but North Western European from Central Germany through the Netherlands, to the UK and to Ireland is pretty much the majority of their ancestry…
February 7, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Dani
Dragon Horse, you’ve been on the ball with this. Thanks for updating. I’m going to bring my class’ attention to this website.
February 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM
Eff
Great work, fascinating to look through.
I’d be curious to see an average Canadian as the French ancestry is very strong and historical treatment of First Nations differs substantially from US (leading to a stronger native American genetic component).
February 8, 2011 at 3:24 AM
Dragon Horse
Elf:
It is highly unlikely they have much of a stronger genetic component based on recent studies. Here is an explanation as to why:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/01/the-genomic-heritage-of-french-canadians/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GeneExpressionBlog+%28Gene+Expression%29
February 9, 2011 at 4:40 AM
Betty
I would love to see a composite of Ashkenazi Jews (possibly restricted to Americans…). Any chance of that?
February 9, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Bo Culjan
Any plans to do an overall composite? An “average earthling”?
February 9, 2011 at 2:00 PM
georgia
where’s the brazilian female?? want to see if it looks a bit like me =)
February 9, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Patricia Kayden
Where are the Caribbean Island composites? Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Barbadians, Haitians, etc.?
Yes, I’m pestering you and making demands (smile).
February 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM
tee
I would love to see some of more of central america… it’d be interesting to see the variety throughout the different countries
February 12, 2011 at 1:36 AM
YSS1
Dragon Horse, a lot of these are being circulated with the Argentine lady listed as being South-African, leading to speculation about racism and sampling bias. For example I first saw these images here: http://jezebel.com/#!5758201/see-the-average-face-of-women-from-40-different-countries/gallery/1
Do you know which is the correct labelling?
February 12, 2011 at 4:35 AM
Dragon Horse
YSS1:
The labeling on this site is correct.
These are all my images, that guy stole them and did not source it back to me (asshole). He confused the South African one with the Argentina one.
My labels are correct, his are not. I’m not racist against black people, I am black. LOL
February 17, 2011 at 9:53 AM
Dragon Horse
Updated with average Brazilian woman…
February 19, 2011 at 8:41 AM
Bob
Which program did you use? I am interested in fiddling with a trial.
February 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Dragon Horse
faceseaerch.org
February 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM
zarzal
I know a lot of us are probably driving you crazy, but any plans on doing average Colombian faces?
April 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Andrea Granada
That’s what I was wondering! What about Colombia?
October 9, 2011 at 10:16 AM
vindicator
I really like your posts on the average face of each nationality. Are you going to post any more or update the faces you already have up?
October 20, 2011 at 4:28 PM
NonKoolAidDrinker
There’s no way in hell the average white American is that light and fine featured. I look Hispanic compared to those two people! Where’s you get the photographs for those two comps, Stormfront?
That “average Golden Age actor” looks like a typical white American IMO.
October 30, 2011 at 2:18 PM
John
I would like to see a Chilean, male and female.
March 19, 2012 at 8:56 PM
Laura
Please do the average Colombian face… for males and females
it would be fun to see. Thank you, and this is very cool!!
May 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Kaya
Okay, I’ve gotten through almost every “Worlds of Averages” this blog is offering, and I’ve come to this:
Average people actually look more attractive than their celebrity counterparts.
June 12, 2012 at 10:04 AM
ivandrago
Canadians and australians will be similar to americans? I join people who waiting their composites
July 7, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Guilherme
well, i don’t look anything like the average brazilian lol
July 15, 2012 at 12:55 AM
Cori
I’d love to see a Native North American average. People don’t seem to know what we look like anymore.
July 16, 2012 at 7:50 PM
Paquito
Why are African Americans and White Americans two different groups, while Brazilians who are as diverse as Americans all together? The same goes for other Latin American countries? You should separate them between White, Mestizo, Mulato, Indigenous if you’re going to separate Americans. You make it seem like these countries are homogeneous.
July 20, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Dragon Horse
Because they are historically socially seperate groups, but in Brazil although their is more a racial continuum…if I line up 10 Brazilians who call themselves “white” and 10 who call themselves Predo, well okay, maybe you can see a difference, but what about the 2 dozen different “names” in between that people group themselves by. The social deviation in most of Latin America is not as much based on phenotype as in North America, and rarely was enshrined in law. Same is true in Mexico. I can find Mexicans who call themselves “white” who look no difference from Indios. You won’t find a many people who are considered black in America confused for white people (yes it happens sometimes, but extremely rarely).
September 5, 2012 at 8:04 AM
Psyuck
Do not judge a country where you know only stereotypes, there are more pure white people in Brazil than Canadá or Australia…
What about the americans mongrels? These millions of people don´t exist?
March 25, 2013 at 5:19 AM
J.B.
Psyuck, what’s the problem of Brazil being a country where the majority is mixed-race?
Yes, there are “pure whites” in Brazil (I suppose you mean whites with European ancestry only), but they are not the majority (not even within the self-declared whites), and they definitely don’t have a culture associated with them.
August 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM
Eye2Eye
Fascinating… these faces are kind of perfect, symmetrical & beautiful. Yet boring and forgettable at the same time. I guess symmetry = beauty = anyone; everybody. If these were real human faces I believe they’d be called photo-proof.
September 11, 2012 at 5:34 AM
Eye2Eye
Any chance of a North American Native American (Indian)? That is, if any still exist. BTW, Puerto Ricans are actually Indian-or the tropical Indians who lived on Puerto Rico for thousands & thousands of years–prior to the violent invasion/subsequent vicious colonialism from the whites from Spain & Portugal; good ol’ Christopher Columbus..oops, he gobbled up Florida. Go figure. But then again, ALL western European nations spread throughout North & South America rapaciously grabbing up land & killing/enslaving native peoples.
September 18, 2012 at 8:17 AM
Rukshana
Hi there. If possible could I use your images for a psychology research assignment.
October 5, 2012 at 6:05 PM
Kathleen
Hi Dragon Horse. I am a graduate student at University of Missouri – Columbia and doing my thesis on tipping behaviors of four types of races. I am interested in using the African American, North American, Mexican and Chinese average images in my thesis.
Those images you have provided are perfect for my thesis so I would like to use the images in the questionnaire. For this, I would like to have your permission. I would appreciate it if you let me know.
October 18, 2012 at 6:17 PM
ash
WHERE ARE THE ASIAN AMERICANS? Also, mixed races/hapas??? Don’t we, Americans, pride ourselves as a MELTING POT.
~respect~
November 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM
Dane
Truly no matter if someone doesn’t know then its up to other viewers that they will help, so here it happens.
April 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM
guy
Average Argentinain woman was used as average South African in another site.
http://slumz.boxden.com/f605/oct-5-average-face-women-around-world-1825173/
April 24, 2013 at 1:42 AM
D
Where is the Caribbean?……
April 24, 2013 at 6:58 PM
Amo
Can you do Colombian people? That would be great! Thank your for your work
April 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM
bruno
Why separate white north americans and african north americans?
April 30, 2013 at 12:17 AM
Dreamer
This is so cool. To see all of these different looking people makes me feel so happy that we all look different. It’s beautiful.
What if people didn’t do all of those horrible things to one another and we all got to meet each other in a less hostile way? I doubt the world would be perfect. But what if each new generation didn’t have to be burdened with the knowledge of all of this hatred that our ancestors created? What if all of the wars, genocides, and slavery just never happened? I often think about how things could be if we were all born into this world with a clean slate. To just be able to learn and experience, and interact with zero baggage. If I had the power, I would send 5 million babies to a new world. I would wipe the memories of 10 million adults of anything that had to do with hatred and replace that gap with knowledge of all the worlds sciences and send them to raise the children. Just start over…
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