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October 12, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Perez Christina
Why did you separate Indian and South Indian?
July 19, 2011 at 5:36 AM
MJ
cause the two are different racial groups – aryans and dravidians
January 9, 2013 at 6:02 PM
suzy
well the two averages kind of looked the same..i wouldn’t be able to distinguish that they were from different areas.
April 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM
camilero
why are you talking about races ? there’s only one human race ! the last other human race had disappered hudereds of 1000 years ago, that was neandherthalian.
October 12, 2009 at 6:34 AM
Dragon Horse
I work with a Tamil woman and she asked me to, she wanted to see a difference. Eventually I will do a Punjabi as well. India is big, so it is kind of obvious that the average Tamil would stand out in Punjab, and vice versa. Similar to China, but even more so. There is a big North/South differential.
May 25, 2010 at 4:09 AM
A real person from kerala
I think the Average Bollywood actors are the closest to a Punjabi-Kashmiri “northwest indian” type. Since most Bollywood actors and actresses do have Punjabi origins, making this Bollywood composite the closest to that of an average Punjabi face. Well thats if you also minus the fact that these are celebrities chosen on looks, and not just everyday people chosen of the streets.
December 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Daniel
@Dragon Horse –
I have a question. How many subjects (faces) were used to make an average face?
March 4, 2010 at 11:48 PM
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April 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Edison Kaleiwahea
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April 9, 2010 at 4:55 PM
Aamir Siddiqui
south indians too differ much.among south indian states, kerala people are generally fair compared to others.the facial features are also sharp.was a surprise when i visited .
January 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM
suzy
that’s b/c kerala is on the western side of india. indians get more caucasian looking as you go west and even more so as you go north
May 25, 2010 at 3:39 AM
A real person from kerala
I think People should stop over-exaggerating any small differences found among fellow south indians. Yes there variations within kerala itself, but the people are still on average closer to a mahogany-brown skin tone. you can almost compare kerala people somewhat with srilankan sinhalese, and the “Average South Indian Female” face(not sharp features) does look like that of many typical kerala woman.
plus south indians like aishwarya rai, shilpa shetty and deepika padukone aren’t from kerala-state about rather kannada-state(Mangalore) to the north. Their is nothing unique about kerala.
June 27, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Remya Bombaywallah
are u a person from other state trying to demerit kerala ?
September 7, 2012 at 8:37 AM
gayathri
which keralite would say nothing is unique about kerala
July 16, 2010 at 7:25 AM
neha
Very good blog all posts are good
December 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM
an
Uzbeks and Mongols (from your different) have similar head shapes and general features which is altered by Mongoloid and Europid admixture within. I’d like to see Kazakh average, which I guess would look similar to Uzbek and Mongol average
February 8, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Roman
It’s problematic to paint average Israeli male, since the ashkenaz and the sephard populations are not too mixed, to lesser extent, but still similar to races in the US.
February 10, 2011 at 2:12 PM
lou
what about pakistan? i suppose to most people we would fall into the ‘indian’ category (to some extent this is true with regards to punjabis/sindhis who aren’t much different to north indians). but there is an element of laziness to this view i think. there are many different groups of people mainly in the north – in azad kashmir, gilgit- baltistan and the north-west who tend to be overlooked. maybe its nitpicking but if you can accept the diferences between north and south indians why not do a composite pakistani face? or whatever.
February 13, 2011 at 11:10 AM
LG
I’d love to see the average/composite Bangladeshi face. We’re part of South Asia and have dark skin but because we border Burma, there is a Mongoloid element in the features, with the average Bengali not being as sharp featured as say a Pakistani or North Indian.
February 20, 2011 at 4:28 AM
Sacha
I’d be interested in seeing Lebanese!
March 3, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Marwa
I’d be interested in seeing a composite of Egyptian faces! Thanks!
March 4, 2011 at 3:10 AM
Dragon Horse
Marwa…maybe you can convince more Middle Eastern women to actually take pictures and put them on line like men do. Good luck with that? LOL
January 22, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Mohammed Khan
Where is the Turkish male btw there is an average Pakistani male photo on my previous comment…..you can try up loading that picture on the South Asian section.
March 4, 2011 at 3:13 AM
Zayna
a few questions and comments:what was the average age or age range of people for the photos used to create the composites – I’m just curious – all the photos made good looking examples of their representative nationalities – was perceived attractiveness used to choose photos for the composite, or did the averaging of photos just cause that?, Also would be nice to see North-American First Nations cultures – eastern, plains and coastal peoples are known to have unique features so it would be nice to see this separately (and the average Canadian face too – we look a little different on average than south of 49
April 8, 2011 at 9:39 AM
Dragon Horse
Added Turkish female, Turkish male coming…
May 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Neha
Can you please do it for Indian states the metro cities
Delhi
Calcutta
Mumbai
Bangalore
Hyderabad
Chennai
Considering all these places have separate languages
also India is six times the size of france or 7 times the size of UK
May 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Neha
I could help with the photographs from ordinary people in Delhi
May 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Neha
Great Work!!!!!! Loved it
June 8, 2011 at 6:34 AM
Sumi
The average Bollywood actor accurately represents Pakistanis/Kashmiris/Punjabis. In India, light skin is deemed better looking and is disproportionately represented in the media. It’s typical of the North, not only because of colder climate, but because there are more Persian/Turkish genes mixed with Indo-Aryan genes up there. Pakistanis look more “middle eastern” and are on average lighter skinned than most Indians because of this, and same thing with Punjabis/Kashmiris.
I made a male average of some Pakistanis and Punjabis, especially with some faces considered “representative” of the regions. I used pictures I had on my computer, so the average is a lot more attractive than the average guy, but it looks roughly like most of my cousins and uncles (I am punjabi), so its accurate enough.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img868485.jpg/
July 24, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Mohini
Hey loved that you posted the bollywood faces! It just shows the variation in Indian faces. Awesome post!
October 2, 2011 at 4:14 AM
joseph
why did’nt you post an average Kurdish and Sindhi (it is a seperate identity inside the south asian region) type..LoL.
October 14, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Velu
How did you do this??? Can u post or mail some sample photos (merged and not merged) and the procedure to find the average of them???
November 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM
person
heyyyyy……………… can you show indonesian faces???? lol
December 20, 2011 at 3:46 AM
chinzoshde
wht bout mongolia
January 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Yuckademus
I hate the look of the Bollywood faces as they not at all representative of the vast majority of India. They only represent a look that is common among upper caste/class north west Indians. It is poison to the minds of india’s children that only one beauty ideal is promoted.
January 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM
Aditya
South indian looks very much like a person from south india
February 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM
selena
The Egyptian composite is hogwash. Egypt is in Africa after all, and except for the Northern cities, most Egyptians look quite African. The original people of Egypt and of North Africa were African descent. Your composites are meaningless and aren’t scientific at all. Selecting pictures off the Internet is no objective science. Even if you try to include variety there is still bias as to which kinds of people are posted online. Egyptians that immigrate to the US and those on the web are from Northern cities and disproportionately of Euro mixture. Unlike most Egyptians. If you were to travel THROUGHOUT Egypt and NOT just the Northern CITIES of Cairo, etc, the people would look drastically different from that composite.
Your composites are more Caucasianized on average than the real people of these countries. And go figure. Since most countries copy white Western beauty, and since most of the privileged classes in third world nations have Euro admixture and/or lighter skin, the pictures on the Web will reflect that. Online pictures DO NOT give you an average of what a nation looks like. You will be greatly deceived in many cases if you think so.
And what’s with the female composites having lighter skin than the male composites? DO NOT tell me that it’s natural or that women are lighter skinned on average than their men. That will DEEPLY insult my intelligence. Women of each race and nation have the shame shades as the males. I know. I have eyes. So please tell me, why did you do that? Why do most of these composites seem to have lighter skin (except for East Asia) than what most people have of that nationality? Did you make the skin transparent so that the facial features will blend through so that we can “see” the average?
February 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Dragon Horse
Actually men do have darker skin than woman within the same ethnic group, human skin color is sexually dimorphic (women are the ‘fair sex’). This is mostly due to differing hormone levels.
Human skin-color sexual dimorphism: A test of the sexual selection hypothesis. Reply to Frost (2007) (p NA)
Lorena Madrigal, William Kelly
Human skin-color sexual dimorphism: A test of the sexual selection hypothesis (p NA)
Peter Frost
Women have lighter skin than men do across a wide range of populations, even on the unexposed skin of the upper inner arm, possibly because of sexual selection by men for lighter-skinned women. If this hypothesis is true, human skin color should become more sexually dimorphic with increasing distance from the equator, since sexual selection for lighter skin in women would be less constrained by natural selection for darker skin in both sexes. Yet when Madrigal and Kelly (2006) analyzed skin reflectance data from 53 different samples, they found that the most dimorphic human populations were actually those of medium skin color at medium latitudes.
Next time get familiar with the research before commenting.
I have also been to Egypt, I was there a month before the revolution, my friend used to work for the American Embassy. It is true that upper Egyptians are darker, and gradually fade to what most Western people will consider “black”, basically Nubian, but where are most Egyptians located? Lower Egypt. What is the population and density? Upper Egypt is not very populated and probably has not been since Greek or Roman times. If you do a composite based on the “average” what is it going to look like if it is really “the average”?
If you write something else stupid on my blog I will delete it. The purpose of the blog is to discuss intelligently, learn, or teach. You are doing none of the above.
February 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM
selena
Next time, read before replying. I already said before:
“DO NOT tell me that it’s natural or that women are lighter skinned on average than their men. That will DEEPLY insult my intelligence. Women of each race and nation have the shame shades as the males. I know. I have eyes.”
You clearly believe in pseudo science. Your argument about Egypt’s populace is debatable. It is your reply and this blog that are stupid. But don’t worry, I won’t visit this ridiculous blog again.
January 9, 2013 at 6:12 PM
suzy
i thought they looked like a pretty accurate description of the countries…um, they probably look more caucasianized because arabs/persians are considered to be caucasian?
March 9, 2012 at 8:35 AM
Shmul
Amazing work. would be interesting to see the difference in features between ashkenazi jews and sephardic jews.
July 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Mike J
not amazing by any stretch of the imagination. sephardim and ashkenazi jews have intermarried for generations. you should know that, shmul. and aren’t sephardic jews supposed to be different than mizrahi jews? and certainly chinese jews and yemeni jews don’t look the same as mountain jews of the caucasus? this blog is stupid and worthless. composite? composite of stereotypical race trash.
May 5, 2012 at 8:35 PM
Kaya
Oh god, I needed this SO much….!!
I’m trying to get used to drawing faces outside my race, so this is a real helper!
(Kinda sad that there aren’t enough female samples here, like the Saudi once….)
July 1, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Mike J
you got to be kidding. this comment is not hateful, but it is completely prejudicial. So racist in the most fundamental way! you can’t draw a picture of a ‘race.’ what do you even mean by that word? Some phony ‘average’ racial composite means nothing. Black and Arab people in the US, for example, look like everything. In that light, these composites are worthless and meaningless. There is no standard racial look. People see what they are looking for. This is like something out of racist anthropology books of the early 1900s, that claimed to rank and describe all the races of the world. you are better than this, i hope.
October 7, 2012 at 3:00 AM
Catherine
I think you misunderstood Kaya’s comment. Drawing these averages as practice can be really helpful because they are so fuzzy. Unlike a picture of a single person’s face, in these averages the fine details are blurred out so you are left with more simple shapes to imitate.
Of course these pictures shouldn’t be treated like the rule for how people of a particular race or country look. Instead they can be useful to practice drawing different eye, nose, mouth and face shapes…then down the road you can combine them to make more diverse looking people when you draw. Otherwise all your faces end up looking too much alike and your drawings of people seem more dull and life-less.
May 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Cet
Could you please post a picture with Turkish male, too?
June 2, 2012 at 5:22 PM
Mondiale
Thanks, this was interesting. The Israeli/Lebanese/Saudi/Persian/Iraqi/Turkish faces look very related, not a coincidence in my opinion. My family is Jewish, all of us Ashkenazi, although my Dad and brother are darker and more “spehardic” looking than my Mom and I, to the extent that my father has had people spontaneously speaking to him in Farsi (Persian, Iranian language)
However, my mother and I are often asked if we are French/Spanish/Italian/Portuguese, so I guess it isn’t all about skin colour, also about facial features!
I would also be interested in seeing Ashkenazi vs Sephardic please! It seems that the man looks more Ashkenazi, the woman more Sephardic, but obviously the differences are not large enough to be classified as seperate ethnicities, probably do to a small admixture from local populations. My opinions/observations are based on living in Israel and abroad.
Now, seeing as all those ethnicities are evidently related, why not get along!
June 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM
Mario
I fell in love with the average Lebanesse woman.
July 1, 2012 at 9:15 PM
Mike J
All the ‘average’ Middle Eastern men look like the ‘average’ Sicilian and Serbian guys in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. By the way, the ‘average’ Israeli man looks nothing like the average Israeli. He looks like an accountant from Long Island.
July 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM
Brian
The last picture average Turkish woman had a very pretty face.
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August 6, 2012 at 7:34 PM
man
I really loved this work
I would like to see average Kazakh,Turkmen, faces too,I think they will look like average uzbek male/female. and I liked “average Iranians” too and it is interesting for me that whose pics u used to make average Iranian male/female? and will u post pics like that from other middle eastern countries like Azerbaijan,Armenia? thanx!
August 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM
tina
very good thing, i am very interested in that , me also i have read many books , how the people mixed ,,, i can help you anything , very easy to know from where any person , very interested thing…
August 17, 2012 at 4:18 AM
Eye2Eye
Longest & shortest lifespan of women:
Longest- Japan 86 years Shortest- Afghanistan 45 years
I’m sorry I don’t have a quotable source. Think it may have been NationalGeographic.com.
September 2, 2012 at 5:05 PM
person
plz do a one of pakistan too
(and do a one of punjabi and pushtoon pakistani people differently bcozz punjabi and pushtoon ppl do look alot different from each other).
October 21, 2012 at 12:23 AM
Mohammed Khan
They do have an average Pakistani male photo just browse up to Sumi’s link
November 5, 2012 at 8:52 AM
maharu
its really nice. bt north keralites especially muslims are slightly more cute dan other south indians(ppls from mangalore to northern part of calicut district in kerala)
November 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM
urfather
average?? THEY ARE ALL GOOD LOOKING!! HOW ARE GOOD LOOKS AVERAGE??
November 16, 2012 at 7:42 AM
Eye2Eye
Average must mean that literally here- thru out the all the worlds’ faces —they become mathematically even & proportioned. Literally taking the photographic averages of many people–some ugly people alongside truly good looking faces. I’m not sure these would “pop” out as beautiful in reality. I bet more like crowd melts. Any of these faces would be excellent for serial killers—I mean not just here on the middle eastern page, but any of the faces on website here, any nation’s facial average.
November 14, 2012 at 7:25 AM
3rd Millenium Men
Average Israeli is the best… with the average Turk close behind!!
December 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM
lil
Here is an Average Pakistani Man I think he’s pretty good looking. I’m guessing why Pakistani image is not posted up because pmsol3 travels to those countries and I would assume since Pakistan is an unsafe country because of bad government he might’ve not taken those pictures either that or those Bollywood pictures are meant for Pakistanis since that’s what Pakistanis look like. I still haven’t found an image of Average Pakistani Woman but if I can’t find it then I’ll make one but at least there’s an Average Pakistani Man just like how there’s an Average Turkish Woman but no Average Turkish Man.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img868485.jpg/
January 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Ali Gillani
Well im a pakistani and from all these composites, I most closley resemble the iranian mixed israeli face, but the guy who showed the composite of a pakistani face i felt like i was his twin
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April 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM
turk
why is there turkish woman but no turkish man???
April 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Raina
How about a Bangladeshi one? That’s a big population.
April 22, 2013 at 6:28 PM
Korra
Could you please do Indonesian faces? Considering, it has the fourth largest population, I think it should be on here. Otherwise, I think this is really cool
April 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM
wael
No North african, tunisian??
April 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Klara
Humans are beautiful!!
April 24, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Mickey
Honestly, as already said by others: the average Israeli man doesn’t look Israeli (the woman rather does).
And yes: average is beautiful. All of the non-existing girls above look great and all of the non-existing guys look like rivals. Great work.
April 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM
Mark
I’d Israeli looks about right, the majority of Israelis have European ancestry and the average face reflects that quite well. I’m surprised you had trouble finding pictures of women for certain countries but managed to find pictures of Afghan and Iranian women!
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May 10, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Pascal
Very interesting site. To my great surprise, I find the average Indian and South Indian women much more beautiful than the average Bollywood actress.